MSCI 261Engineering Economics: Financial Management for Engineers
- Faculty
- Engineering
- Last listed
- Spring 2024
No longer offered. It was in Waterloo’s course catalog since at least Winter 2020 (as far back as Open Data goes) to Spring 2024 and last ran in Spring 2024. It isn’t in the 2024–25 or later calendars.
When it ran
- W20
- S20
- F20
- W21
- S21
- F21
- W22
- S22
- F22
- W23
- S23
- F23
- W24
- S24
Ran in 14 terms, Winter 2020 to Spring 2024.
Introductory finance: time value of money, cash flow analysis. Investment evaluation methods: present worth, annual worth, and internal rate of return. Depreciation models and asset replacement analysis. The impact of inflation, taxation, uncertainty, and risk on investment decisions. [Offered: F,W,S]
Requirements, as last listed
Prereq: Engineering students only. Not open to Architectural, Biomedical, Civil, Environmental, Geological, and Systems Design Engineering students. Antireq: AE 392, BME 364, CIVE 392, ECE 390, ENVE 392, GEOE 392, SYDE 262
In today’s calendar
- MSE 422 lists it in its requisites
Discussed on r/uwaterloo
48 posts and comments in 37 threads mention MSCI 261, May 2011 to December 2024. Quoted word for word, newest first; each reply sits under the post and the comment that started its branch. Search r/uwaterloo for newer posts.
Fall 2023
Thoughts on management eng? 1 point, 1 comment
“Hi, I'm currently in grade 12 trying to get into engineering at waterloo. I plan on applying for Comp Eng and then having my second choice as management. …”
u/KINGBLUE2739046: “Tier means absolutely nothing, it’s purely difficulty of getting in, which does in turn relate to how sought the degree is through demand. …”
u/KINGBLUE2739046: “Ye but financial firms do like industrial engineers. Also MSCI 261 not count?”
Spring 2023
Is doing this a bit offensive during lecture, or just myself being too sensitive? 93 points, 23 comments
“I'm an international student studying towards a master's degree in my third term. This term I have a course held with some third-year undergrads. …”
u/Ryonbread: “Wasn’t it a tall Guyanese mandem I think I remember that class”
u/darbertron: “bun fam, that yute Maggi was munchin on a mutton roll like a DEMON in MSCI-261”
Fall 2022
It’s time to rename management eng/mgmt/MGTE 167 points, 24 comments
“The current name has several issues: It gives the wrong idea. People assume the curriculum is similar to BBA programs, which leads to high schoolers who are mainly interested in …”
u/1000Ditto: “shelling this post more than xierumeng shells his blog: https://www.reddit.com/r/uwaterloo/comments/r824fg/oc\if\i\had\a\dollar\every\time\i\needed\to/?utm\source=share&utm\medium=web2x&context=3”
u/1000Ditto: “… course if you actually enjoy this kind of stuff and prof ada's really nice and personable msci 261 = not gonna lie everyone hates this course, everyone knows it only exists bc of accreditation, but why doesn't eng have like uh Basic Accounting/finance that's not just equations …”
Fall 2021
[deleted by user] 0 points, 7 comments
u/scinortahcem: “… CSEs are typically scheduled in the evening to avoid this conflict but MSCI 261 might not be since it's included in the main plan during 3B for some programs. …”
Winter 2021
MSCI 263 6 points, 5 comments
“Can someone who took MSCI 263 provide insight to the difficulty and type of assignments in this course? Is it a bird course? UWFlow makes it seem hard, but there are barely any reviews.”
u/1000Ditto: “msci 261 fucking destroyed my ass and msci263 looks like msci 261 on steroids”
Management Engineering 10 points, 14 comments
u/1000Ditto: “… ok depending on you as a person, one of the easiest, be wary of 3b esp msci332, me 235, msci 261, msci 263 2. pm/data/general business/basic mech stuff/ programming 3. …”
Fall 2020
MSCI 446 TAs 14 points, 4 comments
“Little rant. I am salty about Test 2. Quality of tutorial videos are subpar. He makes tons of mistakes, and cannot raise his voice above 2 dB. …”
u/1000Ditto: “which prof is this? please I don't wanna get fucked up in data mining this sounds like msci261 rn mgmt2legit”
How math intensive is economics 5 points, 13 comments
“So I’m a first year honours arts student and am considering declaring economics as my major instead of political science (which I initially applied for). …”
u/1000Ditto: “as an eng kid who is taking calc 3 and taken linalg I am struggling with financial math ("economics for engineer")”
u/1000Ditto: “whatever msci261 entails (it definitely isnt econ)”
Spring 2020
MSCI 211 & 261 Textbooks plsplspls 1 point, 0 comments
Winter 2020
SE 350 automatic 100% on 50% final, CS 350 possible exam??? 101 points, 157 comments
“Software Engineering course (SE 350) gets automatic 100 on 50% final exam. Computer Science equivalent (CS 350) planning on online exam. …”
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u/mywaterlooaccount: “You also got blessed in the summer term with your excel course (MSCI 261), and apparently an easy enough courseload for most of the class (in fact, pretty much every person I asked) to overload. …”
[deleted]: “Lol getting rid of the exam is one thing. But giving everyone 100’s? Even high school inflation is not this ridiculous.”
u/256to1Mux: “Msci 261 was an easy course to pass but a hard course to get a good mark in. I don't know of anyone who got 100 on that final exam, even if it was similar to the review. This is not at all the topic of this conversation, so it is egregious and out of the blue.”
u/NyteCore: “thank Brian and his msci261 for giving us the love 😊”
CS 246 vs CS 247 4 points, 7 comments
“what are the differences?”
u/sexxiAndIKnowIt: “As far as I know CS247 is the CS246 alternative that SE students take. Since SE students have taken a C++ course (CS138) before, 247 barely touched on inheritance and writing C++ whiereas you learn …”
u/fabulizer: “ok thanks, also would you know how does msci 261 (2b se econ course) compare to econ101/102? I’m gonna switch to cs and rn I’m trying to figure out if I should do that before or after 2b.”
Fall 2019
Dropping Electives Engineering Ruling 1 point, 0 comments
u/Taco220: “… I wanted to take a reduced load for my 2B term, so I dropped MSCI 261 and currently it says on my transcript that I must earn the credit prior to 4A. …”
Resources
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- Engineering Economics - Jangho Yang Other · yangjh2612.github.io · from Jangho Yang’s site Remove
- SoundCloud - Hear the world’s sounds Other · soundcloud.com · posted on r/uwaterloo Jun 2014 Remove
Check it elsewhere
- Undergraduate Calendar, 2023–24Its last calendar entry, on ucalendar
- Course outlinesSyllabi from past terms (UW login)
- UW FlowStudent ratings and reviews
- WClassesPast sections back to 2004, and who taught them
In the scanned calendars
How it read in each calendar from 1985–86 to 1994–95, newest first. The text is OCR of the scanned pages; years whose wording matches are shown once, from the clearest scan. Each year links to its page on uwloo and to that page of the scanned PDF.
1985–86 to 1994–95 9 calendars
This course is designed to satisfy Engineering Economics requirements of the Canadian Accreditation Board. Price and output decisions. Choosing among alternative inputs and production processes. Evaluating alternative investments, equipment service life, and new products.
Offered Fall, Winter, Spring · 3 class, 1 tutorial hours a week · 0.5 credit